Select language:     » Introduction   Online Postcards   » Pick up a card   » Send a card   Monthly Poll   » Enter current poll   » View previous polls   Charts   » Album Charts   » Single Charts   » Musicvideo Charts   » Song Charts   » Remix Charts   Live Chat-room   » Login   » Register your nick   Mailinglist   » Sign up   » Member service   » View memberlist   Message Board   » Board rules   » Enter board   Guestbook   » View guestbook   » Sign guestbook Interactive  [Message Board] Author Subject:  About BURNING cd's A.T.L. Banned: 1 time(s) Registered User Post: 58 Posted 05-12-01 - 11:31 PM Hello all ... I just wanna come back at my message somewhere! About that burning of CD's ... See ... it is illegal ... but it is sometimes not wrong! I cannot get the ALBUM in another way (I tried ...) And I DON'T trust to order it by a company on the internet! But as you know ... I have more legal CD's then ILLEGAL ... and if I have got CD's illegal ... then I have choosen several songs and ones which I like ... and not stupid cd's bought in shops with a few good songs ... I will go on further with this message tomorrow ... need to go sleep now ... TO BE CONTINUED 1st Reply Chrissan Registered User Post: 10 Posted 06-12-01 - 00:02 AM Hold it right there! This isn't anything related to so please choose the other board please! (We've moved your entry, please continue from here) Regards, //Chrissan Swedish assistant and translator 2nd Reply NetRoam Webmaster Administrator Post: 24 Posted 06-12-01 - 00:15 AM This topic has been moved to the other forum, since it has nothing to do with ! Along with that I'd like to add a little comment to your message, A.T.L. Burning CD's is _always_ wrong - no matter what. It doesn't matter if you can't get an album where you live, it's still wrong! So don't say that it isn't! I think a further explanation of the illegal vs. legal cd's would be nice to have, since I don't quite understand what you mean! /// NetRoam webmaster 3rd Reply Stingbat Co-webmaster Administrator Post: 14 Posted 06-12-01 - 00:28 AM Hey! About you can't order it - I really don't think thats SO true! On CDon they got it, and you can easily find it by using our Record-section, and follow the Shop/Basket-icon. I DO know (so don't start "yelling" about that) that you don't "like" buying from a internet-company. But whats wrong with CDon? They are trustable enough. What exactly are you afraid of? Anyway - it's your decision ofcouse! /// Stingbat Co-webmaster & Site-programmer 4th Reply Myra Reporter Assistant Post: 36 Posted 06-12-01 - 11:50 AM As people have said earlier, it doesn't matter if you're going to buy the album later or if you're only picking up the good songs, it still is illegal, and I'm sure you know how artists feel about that. And about CDON, I completely trust on them! I buy more records from CDON than on regular stores. You know, you don't have to pay with a credit card, you can have a bill with the record, so you can go to a bank to pay it with cash or whatever if you want to. So it's completely safe! and you'll get the legal album MUCH faster than it will come to Dutch stores! ///Myra Reporter & Assistant (had to write that there, I see everyone else is playing with titles... ha ha) 5th Reply posh Registered User Post: 3 Posted 23-12-01 - 06:19 PM // Updated 23-12-01 - 06:25 PM well, this might be a looong and difficult mail to write, but eventhough I'll try to do it as simple as I can. The copyright rules are, as I say in another thread, different in different places, so therefore many of the things said and written here might not apply in your part of town. However - eventhough the rules are different, they are doublecrossed in many ways, and that's what makes them so hard to explain. Take for example the fact that it's legal to download mp3s and listen to them as long as you only have them for 24 hours and then delete them. Then you'll have the chance to find out if you want the album or not. This is a good thing I recon, but how are you suppose to get these files downloaded when it's illegal to RIP them ?? Who's gonna put them online then ??? Well, that was one thing that is doublecrossing - but fear not - there's more: It's legal for you to copy for your own use (then you can ask yourself - what is your own use??) if you have an original of the desired album. However, how are you supposed to copy the CD for your own use when it's illegal to rip it ?? Once again doublecrosing fact. OK, you can do it "on the fly"- but if you want a various artists album - you have a problem) Copying CDs is like smoking Hash... It's illegal to buy, sell and hold - but not to smoke - then... how are you suppose to smoke it ?? Nevertheless... downloading CDs (full albums and so on) are legal if they are not digitally copied. If they are analog copies, then it's legal - no matter what you might think. The fact is also that analog copied music can easily be transferred back to digital music and so on, so how can one protect oneself ? On my site I host mp3s - they are in some ways both legal and illegal. Legal in the way that they are protected so they can't be copied or transferred to CDs or even .wav's, and that they are protected so that they will automatically expire after 5 listens or after 3 days. They are however illegal as they are ripped from CDs, so yet again - there you have it. I _could_ have copied them analog, but that would have set down the ripping speed to 1/3 of the digital ripping, so I didn't do that. So you see, it's not just all illegal just because you do not have the original - some things are legal even if you do not own the original, so backwards. Many also have the idea that the mp3format in itself is illegal - it's not, so please try and think about this sometimes too. I'm not more holy than anyone else here, but I have had the chance to sit down with someone from the CODA agency and ask questions until I got blue in the face about these things, as I was once nearly nicked for hosting mp3s. I didn't get caught for several reasons - the artist I had copies of on my server had his own copyrights, and not his label, and he luckily didn't care - also was much of it unreleased materials - materials that he hadn't bothered copyright as it wasn't supposed to get released, ever, so... I would like to see some more comments on this issue also, but keep it simple and on topic, and discuss it civilized, and don't screw around and throw mud or whatever at eachother... and keep the language simple as well - something that (after what I have seen and understood) A.T.L has a BIG problem with. So... a Merry Christmas and a Happy -New Years to you all - hope to see you again in 2002. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ...and a PS for Myra; The family is good, and we are all in good health. I got a new job back in September at TDC (The Danish Phone-/Communications- company) and is now to be head of the GFX-department in the new section that will be formed when we get back to work on January 2nd 2002 - it's only a title, not a HIGH raise involved, but some raise there will be offcourse, so... But if you wanna see what my everyday life is like - ha ha - tune into http://www.tdc.dk/tdc/english/menu/sm0278.htm and have a look :o)))) Best Tubular Greetings, ever! To The Fans - By The Fans and FOR The Fans posh!